Wednesday, August 16, 2006

Jon Benet Ramsy's Killer Caught??

Is it possible? Did they really catch the guy who killed Jon Benet Ramsey?? Hot DAMN!!!

Jon Benet was found, murdered in her family's home in December of 1996. She was just 6 years old. I was working as a therapist at a Rape Crisis Center when the news came out about her murder. I thought, as many did, that it had to be someone in the family or someone who knew the family. It usually is. But not always.

There are serial sex offenders, especially pedophiles who stalk their victims or become obsessed with a certain type of victim. A lot of my friends speculated that when the Ramseys made her into a sterotypical "sex symbol" child, they painted a target on her back. There were even rumors that the Ramseys were protecting her brother, and that he was the killer. No one really knew what to think.

Although I am still in the field, it is at a statewide level. These days I think a lot about prevention. Before we can work on preventing this crime, we need to have a better understanding about why people commit sexual assault.

Please tell me, if you will, your opinion: why do you think a person does this? What makes a person rape another person?


At 11:02 PM, Anonymous pekka said...

What a profound question you raised and the looks of it, I might be one of the first to comment on it.

I have spent zero time in studying the subject of what makes somebody to be or become a rapist thus eliminating me as a credible commentator. However, I have been buzzled about this horrendous phenomena. Even a fool such as I recognizes that it's a hate based crime and in a way, in my mind, shouldn't be called a sex crime. Defamation, assault and batery perhaps.

The whole scenario of a man attacking a woman (for instance) that could be no visual treat, half crippled and 90 year old is beyond my comprehension. So, you hate women and to get even with the "bitches" you put your male member into granny...but how can you have the required errection? The mechanics here are not very clear to me and the all rapists out there, please, help me to understand!

My wild quess as to how to avoid breeding rapists is to try to minimize social conditions that are beneficial incubating such individuals. What those conditions are excatly is quess work to me and I recognize the fact that even when the home is "normal" it's not the guarantee for trouble free children. This is perhaps where science and early detection should come in. Granted, that there are more important things to take care of, like prossecuting various wars, but I am quite sure that some urgently needed tax dollars would be well spent in the early intervention field.

Lastly, I find it absolutely horrible that something like the child beauty competitions are even allowed.

At 3:02 AM, Blogger Kelley Bell said...

Thats a big matza ball there Glenda girl!

I would not dare blog an offhand opinion in the comment box on that one.

But, I shall read each and every one, from the edge of my seat.

At 4:20 AM, Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

I can't even begin to imagine how someone would think to do such a horrific act or why they would do it at all. It is just beyond my understanding. What I do understand is that there are varying degrees of a sickness that makes people insane enough to do unimaginable harm to others. (Note that I said people and not just men.) I wish we lived in a world where female sexuality was not twisted into male madness, but we don't and thus all females must guard themselves and their young and be prepared to deal with an attack. I'd be curious to know how others protect themselves.

At 7:10 AM, Blogger betmo said...

i really think that it is about power and control. when you look at youthful offenders- they often start out on babies or young children- because their own lives have been out of control or abusive. if you look at serial killers- they graduated from raping to killing- but it isn't about the sex act itself- it is about the power they feel at holding another person's life in their hands. not every rapist will kill- and not all were abused- but many were. so- my simplistic thought is--power and control. that alone is difficult to rehabilitate.

At 7:54 AM, Blogger Kelley Bell said...

Yes, power, control, abusive history...These all play a part.

But I wonder, if I may, about our species, and our history, and our future, in the wider scheme of things.

Dolphin males will violently murder females and babies, playing with their bodies as a cat with a mouse.

Lions, spiders, Chimps, ants...

There are many, many examples of violent behavior in the animal world.
(and yes, this includes forced sex)

Even though only a certain small percentage commit these acts, the constant remains, that each generation of each species spawns killers.

"Why", is one H#ll of a good question.

At 8:30 AM, Anonymous earl bockenfeld said...

I have always thought that one of the best arguements against the death penalty is the need to discover "why".

This man, if convicted, will receive the death penalty. I would prefer that the best minds in medicine, psychology, and any other relevant sciences analyse and probe this man, and people who have committed similar crimes until we learn the reasons "why" and how to "prevent" future crimes like this.

At 10:07 AM, Anonymous anita said...

Very though question, however you're pointing to the right direction: why?

I don't have the anwers but some speculations, feelings, I suppose. I'm going to through one thought here, let's see what happens. I think a lot of these child rapes in America have to do with a very repressed society, where people are very lonely and stressed by the ongoing competition in all levels one's life. People here learn they need to live their homes early (18) and make a living, are treated too seriously when they're children, and most importantly, families mean nothing at all.
This is strong but I have a feeling that it contributes to this "why"

At 10:07 AM, Anonymous anita said...

Very though question, however you're pointing to the right direction: why?

I don't have the anwers but some speculations, feelings, I suppose. I'm going to through one thought here, let's see what happens. I think a lot of these child rapes in America have to do with a very repressed society, where people are very lonely and stressed by the ongoing competition in all levels one's life. People here learn they need to live their homes early (18) and make a living, are treated too seriously when they're children, and most importantly, families mean nothing at all.
This is strong but I have a feeling that it contributes to this "why"

At 10:25 AM, Blogger DivaJood said...

Glenda, there are those, like Bill O'Reilly, who believe that women "bring it on themselves" by provocitive dress; he's a sick, demented man. Rape, pedophilia, murder, serial murders, all these are examples of sociopathic behavior. Why does it occur? Is it a genetic mutation? Is it a chemical imbalance? Is it emotional? Learned behavior?

It is a sickness, a violent sickness. I have no answers at all, and wish I did.

At 11:04 AM, Anonymous earl bockenfeld said...

Bill O'Reilly should have some ideas, since he's at least a sexual (loofa) harrasser himself.

Like the other sick GOP psychos, since they can't do anything wrong, then it has to be someone elses fault, in this case, just blame it on the victim.

At 11:25 AM, Blogger glenda said...

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At 11:26 AM, Blogger glenda said...

Thank you all for your insight. There are no wrong answers. Research does not provide all the answers. FBI profilers I've talked to don't have all the answers. Victims/survivors I've spoken with do not know.

In order to fix something, don't we need to know the root cause?
Is it domination, anger, a sense of entitlement, psycopathy, genes, repressed society, isolation, lack of family, a born killer, delusion, all or some or a mixture of the great variables you all have mentioned???

Keep the thoughts coming!

At 12:14 PM, Blogger azgoddess said...

what a great question

and here's my two cents

i believe that men and women who are abused as children - any kind of abuse not just sexual - have the potential to become abusers themselves

it is something they know and were taught was 'normal'

i also believe that most of these abusers don't remember the abuse that happened to them, because of they did they would continue the 'tradition' of abuse

i also believe that parts of our society cater to these individuals - think of where that man was caught - in Thailand...and what do men go to Thailand for? to have sex with underaged children

until we can protect our children world-wide..this will continue

At 2:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All men, given the right circumstances, are potential rapists. All people, given the right circumstances, are potential killers of their own kind. Don't believe it? Read the history of warfare - killing and rape are routine practices during violent conflicts. read about what happens to people when the 'normal' constraints of an ordered society break down.The question should be not why some commit these crimes; rather, why do some not? We are all as moral as we have to be. If you don't think this is so, search your own hearts and your own pasts. It's all a question of degree. Civilisation is the thinnest of thin veneers.

At 2:05 PM, Blogger glenda said...

2 more great answers!! wow, thanks.

At 3:02 PM, Blogger JBlue said...

I will never understand how someone could hurt a child or how someone could think of children in a sexual way. They are so vulnerable and dependent upon us to keep them safe. It kills me to think of this little girls last moments. So, I have no answer for you.

At 4:36 PM, Anonymous pekka said...

Charlie, I refuse your supposition that all men are potential rapists. How, you might ask, I know it? Simply because I know myself and I don't have to read any enlightend study about it - I COULDN'T RAPE. The killer part is a different kettle of fish though.

At 4:38 PM, Anonymous Elizabeth Branford said...

I'm with you,jublue. I agree with the comments above, the definitions, the power issues, the the end, it remains a horrific tragedy that mystifies me. No matter how much I learn, read, work with offenders or their still mystifies me because it is illness and illness does not have a rationale.

This type of behavior is pathology, not what is worn or what environment- it is pathology. Sickness, compulsive sickness and a person out of control.

I try not to think about the terror and horrible last moments of these kids, and I try hard not to think what kind of fucking monsters are not moved AT ALL by their pain.

Thats a whole other category of crazy, Glenda.

At 5:01 PM, Blogger WeezieLou said...

Glenda, my first tendency, upon reading your post and your challenge was to say "I have no idea and don't want to pollute my brain by thinking of it". but 'charlie's' post gives me pause. yeah, i agree with everyone about the power/control thing, absolutely. I do also believe that under severe psychological/physical circumstances, anyone is capable of anything. as we all sit in the comfort of our enrvirons and contemplate these questions, it's relatively easy to say "oh no, not me". but if we challenge ourselves......what could i do if pushed to some unknown limit? who could i do it to? i don't know. i have to be honest about that. i DO know that when i returned to my 'mind' it's possible i could not find no way to live with the consequences, and could suicide.

i think some rapists are sick-fuck sociopaths. and i think some are irreperably abused themselves. and that some part of those populations cross-over.

thanks for yet another good, provocative post.

At 6:20 PM, Blogger Elizabeth Green said...

As I'm sure you are aware, JonBenet's mother passed away recently due to ovarian cancer. If this is her real killer,I hope he gets punished to the fullest extent of the law, and I am sorry that her mother didn't get to live to see this day.

At 6:59 PM, Blogger glenda said...

I too spent part of the day wondering how her family has weathered this news, bringing up old painful memories for them, not really wanting to think of her last moments, as it is very hard to contemplate.
I have met some of the foremost FBI profilers and forensic psychologists in this country. Some think this is genetic, that psychopaths are born.
I've also sat and talked with sex offender treatment providers in the line of work. They all say that sex offenders are almost universally narcissists without empathy. They want what they want and often have no remorse.
Yet after so many years, there is still much mystery to me over how someone could hurt a child, or any other person this way.
Yes, if this person is guilty, then I hope he gets the maximum sentence.

At 10:40 PM, Blogger belledame222 said...

Rape is hard enough to understand. rage I guess. rage at women. rage at whoever you can get away with raging at. I guess. something.

the whole JonBenet thing, from the actual murder to why anyone wants these bloody pageants in the firts place, I don't get it at all.

At 10:45 PM, Blogger belledame222 said...

yeah, I dunno about psychopaths being born. I'm not buying it, at least not for a case like this. It's true some people do seem to be just missing empathy completely; and I suppose in some cases it -might- be hardwired.

but that still doesn't explain why the rape and murder of a little girl.

antisocial personality disorder (the more clinical name for "psychopath") doesn't necessarily mean you're a murderer or even a criminal--in fact most aren't. it just means you don't let empathy get in the way of what you want to do.

so, completely amoral in the sense of: want-take-have (so, stealing, being ruthless in general)

but it still doesn't explain where that particular want comes from, I don't think.

truthfully i'm not all that convinced that most if any psychopaths actually are -completely- hardwired. hard to know.

more important to me is learning how to recognize them early.

At 12:10 AM, Blogger sumo said...

my first thought was power and control becuase that is what the head doctors talk about. I agree in others there may be rage. i think those that kill their victims are probably the ones that have the whole evil cocktail in them. But I have a friend that was married and raped by her husband and I believe on his part it was rage mixed with some control. They didn't have a good physical sex life (on her side) and he new it. So one night this control and anger to hold of him and he pounded her body so hard that she couldn't sit comfortably for a week. He laughed in her ear at the same time. She left him after that. He may not have ever done it again or to someone else...but that night he was a sick rapist...and she was forever changed. She did later find a husband to be extremely happy with...I've seen how wonderful he is to her. Dijdn't mean to be so graphic but it is a different side to the equation.

At 12:11 AM, Blogger sumo said...

Oopsie...spelling errors!

At 1:02 AM, Blogger Tina said...

I don't have any answers, but I can say from my observations as a pre-school teacher that some children seem to have a complete lack of empathy for other's. Of course, when we teacher's see them do something to another child, we point it out to them why it is wrong and why they shouldn't do it again, but even after putting them in repeated time outs, those kids without fail, will do this to other kids time and time again.
Is it how they are raised? Maybe. Is it how they simply are in their brain and personality? Maybe. But I am left wondering how will a kid who is already so devoid of empathy be when they are an adult and become a sexual being?... spoooky.

At 3:07 AM, Blogger glenda said...

Beldame222, sumo, tina, thank you for your input.
It's not easy to pinpoint, I wonder if there are many kinds of selfish, evil, ragey, that we try to cram into one box and call it antisocial personality disorder or pschopathic, or whatever word or diagnostic tool we use as a society. Think we can all agree that whoever killer her was sick and twisted.

At 3:47 AM, Blogger No said...

Why? I could go on forever and still not have an answer.

As I've learned in all of my psychology classes, it's all about power and control...I guess, and I suppose there are those socio/psycopaths, but really, I still don't know, and that's what makes it so frightening.

At 7:03 AM, Blogger Sue Woo said...

I think people are taught how to treat other people. Some genetics maybe, but empathy is learned. Children continue to be chattel in our society, where oil is more important than their well-being. It makes me so mad I could spit. Maybe I will.

At 8:46 AM, Blogger Kelley Bell said...

Well, I have a question:
Mythology historian Joseph Campbell taught us that our cultural mythology is the root of society.

I wonder, if questioned, if these perps might reveal a shared concept of worldview rooted in their interpertation of religion?

It would mke a rather interesting documentary to interview these types, and simply ask them to explain the meaning behind the Adam and Eve story, or the one of the man who was told to sacrifice his son.

-Just a thought.

At 12:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think that those people who do those murders a mentaly disorrientated or they had a very 'disrupted' childhood and don't want others to be happy.

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At 7:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It all has to do with power when an offender kills or brutally harms someone. It never means that this person just has a sex addiction. That is not the reason why women are raped or killed. The offender is very weak and very frail in their sense of existence. Because this part of their brain is lacking, these people become frail in their minds because they concentrate so much on building this power in the wrong way simply because they believe there is no other way that would change them as drastically, leading to their ultimate sickness. This is why these people are labeled as "sick". So, since their minds are now very frail and weak, they become used to feelings of causing destruction on people who are instinctively thought of as weaker than they are, primarily women and children. The point of which they commit the crime, it the most difficult time because it is the first time, and that step is the only bridge they need to cross before they feel powerful again, not needing to think about the faces of those they harm, or the moments in which the victim struggled and fell to them. Now we can compare them to dogs, or other hunting animals because their transformation from a creature of emotion to a creature of survival and unfeeling because of his absolute emptiness in power. So desperately he tries to win it back, like a king for his castle, slaughtering time and time again for the power he lacks within. Then again, his desire to kill may also be fueled by a deep and horrible growth that has affected him over a long period of time, stemming from a day in his life that forced his brain to identify women or another group as threats, so his hate becomes permanent. This is mostly identified in homicidal people and serial killers.

At 12:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have been since i was a child been able to know,see,dream,explain,and tell things i have NO ! explanation for but read if u want.The Ramsey family need to try to remamber the family friend who happened to call to their house 3-4 weeks before the murder . Dad was holding a camcorder Mum came walking from the kitchen,JonBenet came happily walking down the stairs she has on a white dress (no pagent makeup on looking like any other innocent little girl) that was when he 1st loked at her in a differant way.he is still involved in there life , that night he had on a burgundy v-neck jersey,white t-shirthe commented to DAD :so pure,!: more a freind of the fathers ifeel,mum has known him a while.Every day he regrets what he did .but in my opinion he really beleives sometimes it was someone else,not himself,the family know him.he also has a good very respectfull position in his job,has own office, he is very good looking has dark hair brilliant smile,36-42yrs old.the night i have told you about he did borrow tools and went into celler with Mr Ramsey. i just wish people could see what i can see so you can see this mans face.a high school jock SCUM !


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