Tuesday, July 11, 2006

And so it has begun...Iraqi Retribution

And the retribution has begun, with undoubtedly more to follow. There is NO way the Bush administration can spin the violence done to this child and her family into gold. More soldiers are marked for torture and violence.

Associated Press/AP Online; 7/11/2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An al-Qaida-linked group claims it killed three U.S. soldiers last month and mutilated two of their bodies to avenge the rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman by troops of the same unit, an institute which monitors extremists Web sites said Tuesday.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council made the claim in a 4:39 minute video posted on the Internet which included the mutilated bodies of two of the soldiers attacked June 19 near Youssifiyah southwest of Baghdad, according to a statement by the SITE Institute.

The institute released still pictures from the video showing two of the American dead, one of whom had been decapitated.

According to the institute, the statement by the insurgent group said the video was released as "revenge for our sister who was dishonored by a soldier of the same brigade."

Two sergeants are among five American soldiers charged in the March 12 alleged rape-murder and the killing her parents and a younger sister. The U.S. military released the identities of the suspects Monday.

42 Comments:

At 7:16 AM, Blogger DivaJood said...

that's the tragedy of retaliation: these soldiers died for the crimes of others. On, and on, and on. Nobody wins under these circumstances. Nobody. This blood hatred is no different than it was under Sadaam, either.

 
At 8:16 AM, Blogger glenda said...

You are so right. It begins and perpetuates a cycle of violence!

 
At 8:39 AM, Anonymous earl bockenfeld said...

That's right Diva, "an eye for a eye", ends up with everybody blind.

A little off-topic, but not very far. When did we become the Soviet Union, exactly? 9/12/01?

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been detaining Muslim immigrants, holding their green cards hostage, and threatening deportation unless the detainee agrees to become a government informant . . . .

I can't wait until the FBI asks me to spy on my kids. That's gonna be so cool!

more here.

 
At 9:43 AM, Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

I can't truly condem the perpetrators of this revenge as that is exactly what our Presidunce has asked us to do in attacking Iraq. They are merely doing as he does. He's a bad influence.

 
At 9:59 AM, Anonymous Anita said...

Glenda,
Thank you for visiting my blog. I didn't know you speak Portuguese so well -- such knowledge now just increases my admiration for you!
You're doing a magnific job with your posts. It's detrimental that we know the other side (the one not showed in the Media here) about what's going on in Iraq. I, myself, will post a link to your blog trying to make people more aware of your and yours readers efforts to end this horrible war.
Anita

 
At 11:29 AM, Blogger dusty said...

I read an article last night about the growing numbers of Aryan brotherhood members that have joined the military and are currently serving in Iraq. Somehow I think much of this kind of sick shit can be attributed to them. There is now american written racist graffitti all over iraq..

just another dirty little secret of this friggin occupation.

 
At 11:37 AM, Blogger pissed off patricia said...

The bar was set so low with the torture in the prisons, shooting innocent people, and now the rape, the example was doomed to be followed.

 
At 11:54 AM, Blogger glenda said...

Earl, That is unreal, how can that coercion be legal??

Peacechick, I can surely understand their rage, but do not condone retaliation. I do support self-defense. Sometimes there is a fine line.

Anita, many thinks, my Potugesa is sadly insufficient, but I try to stumble along. Thanks for the link!

dusty, hi!! I've been reading about that too. Strange when you think about how many gang members are in prison, makes me wonder, how many ex-felons are we letting into the military? The whole war is based on racism.

PoP! Hi, want some of your morning coffee. I agree, we have opened the door into fascism. We are our worst nightmare!

 
At 12:16 PM, Blogger fallenmonk said...

Thanks for expanding on this Glenda. I was on my out of the hotel door when I blogged the quickie this morning. I wasn't aware that the girl was so young, not that it matters except to make the crime that much worse.
It is so unfortunate that a few soldiers with weak characters are going to stain the effort of so many others that are trying to do their duty. Regardless of how much against the war all of us are we need to remember that the vast majority of our boys and girls are over there because they were ordered to be there and from those I have talked to in various airports around the world the vast majority would rather be anywhere else.
This war is wrong on so many levels we have to make sure it doesn't poison our respect and gratitude for our troops as it was for me and my comrades during Viet Nam.

 
At 1:17 PM, Anonymous Adorable Girlfriend said...

Another example where we paved paradise and put up a parking lot. I saw a US solider at the airport the other day and I wanted to spit on him. Actually spit on him! What is happening in Iraq has ruined the military for me. Why can't we leave before we continue to spend our children's inheritance and embarass ourselves any further?

Oh right, the war is profitable for the military industrial complex, aka the Bushitler and Cheney's of the world.

 
At 1:32 PM, Anonymous earl bockenfeld said...

Link to the story.

Point #1, who says what THIS government does, has to be legal.

Point #2, this is happening to legal immigrants, so in a corrupt system, people could be deported by any reason.

The Nixon government pulled the same crap on John Lennon.

Lennon's idea was that the tour would help mobilize first-time voter registration ( now that voting age had been lowered from 21 to 18 ) drawing the anti-war sector and the youth to vote against the war, i.e., against Nixon.

When the Nixon administration learns this, the FBI is enlisted to watch Lennon!

In Feb. 1972, Senator Strom Thurmond sent a memo to the White House suggesting the "Lennon problem" could be handled by deporting John Lennon.

Three weeks later the U.S. immigration moved to deport Lennon because of a drug conviction in England. (Lennon's lawyers stalled the deportation. By 1976, Lennon was granted a green card so he could remain in the U.S.)

Same ole, same ole!

 
At 3:01 PM, Blogger glenda said...

fallenmonk, hi, good to see ya.

ag-I completely understand your anger, but please remember, there are many soldiers who are also dismayed by this...don't judge all by the actions of others.

Earl, you are right, as usual! :)

 
At 3:01 PM, Blogger thepoetryman said...

Uh oh... Glenda, you've done goned and done it again... Your post here has sent forth my muse and she is really, really, really pissed off! I am being instructed to write on this with a fury and she is saying to do so now!
Peace and I will link back at you, of course... Boy, she is really angry...

 
At 5:17 PM, Blogger glenda said...

Good, poetryman. anger is that which motivates us to create change.

 
At 7:13 PM, Blogger Lew Scannon said...

Fallujah, haditha, and now this. How any one can defend this as a "noble war" is beyond me, and yet there are those out there who do!

 
At 12:25 AM, Blogger thepoetryman said...

Done. And linked your way my friend.

 
At 1:21 AM, Blogger sumo said...

It's so sad and maddening at the same time.

 
At 2:12 AM, Blogger Renegade Eye said...

Why aren't they tried by Iraqis??

 
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At 2:42 AM, Blogger Grish said...

Oh my...

I just don't know what else to say.

 
At 6:08 AM, Blogger Candace said...

Damn them! AND the administration that sent them over there, AND the whitewash. Sickening.

Glenda, I'm back online and just caught up on your blog. You are doing such great work here. I'm glad I found you!

 
At 6:09 AM, Blogger Changeseeker said...

Ooooo, I wanna blog on the racist graffiti in English all over Iraq and the Aryan brotherhood boys signing up to serve! Where would I learn more about that, Dusty and Glenda?

 
At 6:11 AM, Blogger glenda said...

renegade eye, Under the law, we do not allow them to be tried in Iraqi court. We have immunity from Iraqi law. Soldiers committing crimes in Iraq ONLY answer to military courts.

Which of course makes those who are psychopaths in the military feel that they can commit just about any atrocity in a war zone and get away with it, and many probably do.

I imagine we will completely oppose getting rid of immunity on the grounds that the Iraqi courts and legal system are in shambles right now. But we do not allow any govenemnt to try our soldiers, even allies, such as Germany have never had that power.

 
At 6:43 AM, Blogger Hillary For President said...

That what you don't know Glinda is that we gave Japan the rite to try one of are soldier last year after he so-call kill a girl.

Fact is simple, with Bush for president, the world treat unfair. WIth Hillary for president, we treat rest of world rite.

 
At 11:15 AM, Blogger Question Girl said...

The blowback from Bush's foreign policy hasn't even begun. We may not feel the full effect of it for years to come. Iraqi's will live with the memories of violence experienced due to our occupation forever.

 
At 11:16 AM, Blogger WeezieLou said...

just joing the choir here, gotta weigh in. this is SO awful, and i agree that skinheads and non-rehabilitated felons (don't want to paint them all with the same brush) could well be among the perpetrators. i said this on TBR also but....i was at jury duty the other day for a rape trial. the alleged perp was there. i realized after a few hours that i'd totally tried and convicted this man in my head - so i got out of jury duty, so he could have his day in a fair court. this type of violence makes me blind with rage!

 
At 11:52 AM, Blogger charlie said...

Oh my, what a whole series of tragedies. Oh my, what despair. Oh my, Glenda...

 
At 11:58 AM, Blogger glenda said...

hmm, hilaryfor president, I could be wrong, I will check on that and get back.
Tell me, why is hilary backing this war?

yes, Question girl! Yes, weeziellou! yes, charlie, it's boggling my mind and i've seen some bad stuff in my time, sat as an advocate with victims at rape trials for serial rapists, but this is full-blown psychopathy!!

It makes me sad, but it reallly makes me angry!!

 
At 3:29 PM, Anonymous Adorable Girlfriend said...

Weezie, I respect your stance on jury duty. When I've been called, I've always worried about serving on something like a rape or murder case. I am not sure I could stomach the proceedings.

 
At 6:26 PM, Blogger Frederick said...

I'm not suppossed to talk about this I guess....but sitting in the chowhall (one of the only place us troops get to see T.V.) and watching the looks on peoples faces, day after day, as more things kept coming out about this aledged rape and the connection to the two kidknapped soldiers who were murdered...I don't know how to say it, its been one of the saddest things I've seen this year.

We know. Inside. We cant speak out as widely as you all can. Get out and vote in November.

Mccs1977

 
At 4:43 AM, Blogger glenda said...

Thank you fred, my hearts goes out to all of you good guys who are working hard to follow your conscience. There are good guys and bad guys in every group. Infortunately, when the bad guys, the psychopaths act out, it affects everyone and the morale of the entire group. Never, ever allow a psychopath to become a police officer, a firefighter, an armed soldier. Police academies do not let these crazies in. It's all about the quota!

 
At 7:55 PM, Anonymous GuerrillasintheMidst said...

Hmm. "Little Eichmanns" looks a bit like an understatement now. If we can really accept violence as legitimate in "self-defense", then Iraqis have every right to destroy every coalition fighter in Iraq. Even the ones with "good intentions".

We don't like to actually think of our own soldiers--brothers, sons, fathers, sisters, mothers, cousins, etc.--as aggressors or mercenaries, but they're there.

Claiming U.S. soldiers are acting in defense--in any way--is like claiming a rapist who punches his victims after they defend themselves is acting defensively.

Has everyone gone mad? Skinheads in the military?! THEY ARE HIRED KILLERS AND YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT NAZIS BEING AMONG THEIR RANKS? We pay for them to murder people and we're freaked out that some of them might be Nazis?

 
At 8:15 PM, Blogger Diane S. said...

When did this become who we are? When did this become okay? When did we turn a blind eye to outrages of civil liberties and due process? When did we begin to build secret prisons? To torture prisoners? To send our best and brightest overseas to rape, maime and torture? To use the Weapons of Mass Destruction we were supposed to contain?

How will we explain this to our children?

A hard rain's gonna fall.

 
At 3:49 AM, Blogger glenda said...

Hi, guerrillas-excellent point

Hey, Diane! Ahrad rain...as Dylan would say. You may be right.

 
At 6:55 AM, Blogger WeezieLou said...

Diane, this began when 9/11 happened and Congress gave powers to the executive branch that they never had before. The Patriot's Act. Dept of Homeland Security. I still remember, and always will, my utter shock watching the towers tumble, and i even remember thinking what bush was saying right after the attacks was right (i am sooo ashamed to admit that!).
my guess is congress would have agreed to any damn thing those 3 - 6 months after the attacks, and we just so happened to conveniently (too conveniently) have dr. strangelove and his puppet in the white house.
the country was a mass of post-traumatic stress disorder and reactivity was the only game in place. and it still is, in many places.

 
At 7:07 AM, Blogger M.D. said...

Now we are playing the revenge game too. Sad. That's not where we should be as a country. This is why it is not wise to solve problems with bombs and bullets.

The fact that innocent people are killed every day, people who did nothing to anybody, people who are just trying to live their lives, is appalling!

We might as well start building terrorist-training camps because we are breeding terrorists like rabbits with this war.

 
At 5:06 AM, Blogger WeezieLou said...

m.d., you're so very right. it's damn scary. three generations of terrorists are now in existence in the middle east and outlying countries. the sheer range of both the abuse and the role modeling should make anyone cringe.

 
At 4:00 PM, Blogger Callooh said...

I just finished my comment to the original story... sigh.

more hate for Hate
more pain for Pain
more blood for Blood

when will there be the courage to do the right thing?

the cycle must be unbearable.

 
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